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Quail on our Homestead | Not a complete fail, or success

May 9, 2016 · In: homesteading, quail

My sister keeps reminding me that I haven’t really said much about our quail since we’ve added them to the homestead. And if we’re being honest, it’s because I still haven’t made up my mind about them.

Everything on this homestead, in my opinion, should be a sufficient source of something or another. And ultimately, I have to take time to outweigh pros and cons of animals and situations on our homestead. I am not going to post a post or make a video telling you all of these amazing things about something unless I have experienced it first hand myself. I’ll tell you what others have said, but not my opinion or that it is “truth” until I’ve actually experienced it myself.

For example, every post I read online said quail start laying eggs around 6 weeks. Mine didn’t start until week 15 because apparently they weren’t getting enough light. However, my chickens have been laying since February with absolutely no supplemental lighting.

Oh…and the Japanese quail STILL haven’t laid eggs yet. Only the A&M.
So, let me tell you about the first few months of our quail adventure, and the conclusion that I’ve come to about Coturnix quail.
When we first bought our quail, it was extremely inexpensive. We bought them when they were around 5-6 weeks old, and they were $5 each. Not bad for a tiny little bird friend. We were originally supposed to have 6-7, but we only received 5. No biggie at all. We received a pair of Japanese Coturnix, and a trio of A & M Coturnix.
The Japanese are slightly smaller than the A&M, and we have discovered, in our personal opinion, that the Japanese are much more wild and flighty than the A&M. The A&M quail come running to us and interact with us, the Japanese act like we’re going to kill them (and I just might) every time we walk by the pen. Literally, like little ninja birds ready at any moment. With that said, that’s not a deal breaker for me, because I use them as a resource, not as a pet.
The A&M quail were created by Texas A&M college to be an all white meat bird, which really intrigued me in the beginning. If I were to choose between the two, I’d definitely pick the A&M as my keeper.
Quail are similar to chickens, in that they like to forage, take dust baths, lay eggs in the same place, and pick at each other. Therefore, since they are in large hutches on our homestead, we give them a dust bathing area in the hutch, a large pan for their feed so that they can still scratch, and they tend to lay their eggs in their dust bathing area or their feed area rather than on the wire.
The hutches have proven to be the best housing for them here. It allows the droppings to drop right onto the ground rather than in their habitat. This makes my life a lot easier. I am still considering making a small run for the A&M quail that we are keeping. But I still want to wait a little longer.
Which brings me to my next point.
I’m not sure quail will be one of our homestead successes, because, if we’re being honest, I feel like they are slightly useless.
Stay with me here, because they aren’t completely useless, but let me explain what I mean.
The Pros
Quail are extremely easy to take care of, and fairly inexpensive. It costs about 75 cents to $1 to raise one bird from hatch to 6 weeks of age. They don’t eat much, at all. And when given the proper housing, they require little clean up.
Quail are quick to mature, processing age is 5-6 weeks (or up to 8 weeks), and they can begin laying the same time as well.
Quail are a wild source of meat and eggs. The eggs are rich in vitamins and good things that chicken eggs don’t have. Quail eggs have been known to cure diseases, asthma, and heal the body. The meat is an incredibly easy source of protein, and they are very easy to process, taking up little time or room.
Quail don’t require a lot of room, and are therefore perfect for a smaller homestead. We house ours in large rabbit hutches. They spend most of their time laying around, quite honestly.
Quail are adorable for their entire lives. Period. I could squeeze them to pieces.
The Cons
While quail are easy to tend to and fairly inexpensive, you’re evening out to about the same with chickens. Why and how? Because chickens are 4 times the size of quail, and it takes at least 3 quail eggs to equal one chicken egg. It also takes 2-3 quail to equal a chicken (or rabbit) size portion of meat for one meal (not an entire chicken or rabbit, just a portion size).
Quail are only efficient layers for their first year. In fact, their life span is only 3 years. Not their laying span…their entire life span. Which means, unlike chickens who can lay for up to 5 years, you’ll be renewing your quail flock every year and a half or so.
Quail need at least 14 hours of light to lay. So if you aren’t planning on giving them supplemental lighting through out the entire year, you might as well forget about it now. My quail didn’t start laying until 15 weeks of age because we got them in early Spring. Had I of known they were extremely temperamental to lighting, I would have supplemented light. But when my chickens have been laying steadily since February without supplemental light (which is against the norm for most), I assumed my quail would follow suite. I was wrong….and so were the blogs I read online (in my particular case).
Quail aren’t always as quiet as you would think. Now, this isn’t a bad thing for me. In fact, I absolutely love listening to the males make their call. However, if you’re in a suburban or urban area that doesn’t allow livestock or roosters, you might want to reconsider or at least hear quail before buying. My male only hollers when alerting to danger, but he is loud.
Quail aren’t bred with the instinct to be broody or self-sufficient. That was a bummer for me, because I was hoping that since they were made out to be so “wild” online, that they would at least come with the instinct to be mothers. That doesn’t mean you won’t have some that go broody. We have had our fair share of hatchery chickens go broody. But it’s just something that coturnix quail aren’t bred with anymore. Stick with chickens and broody breed ducks if you are looking for self sufficiency.
Quail can fly high, and therefore, are not good free range birds. They’ll be dead within the week if you allow them to range. If not dead, they’ll be gone either way. They have no respect for your property lines. They need a hutch or run area with a top or bird netting so that they don’t get out.
Quail feces is extremely high in ammonia. In other words, it stinks like no body’s business. And they poop a lot. Not a bad thing if you are using a hutch style set up with wire bottom. It allows the feces to fall to the ground. However, it’s something you should be aware of either way.
A&M Quail (left), Japanese Quail (right)
What I Have Decided
Taking all of this, and more, into account—I have decided to temporarily (and possibly indefinitely) keep the A&M Coturnix quail. Though, I’m not sure. I’d like to give it a few more months before making my final decision. I’ll either sell or process the Japanese quail. The Japanese quail are just way too flighty for me. I can’t even interact with them without them trying to kill themselves, and they still haven’t laid a single egg for me. We are already almost to week 20, and all they are doing is eating feeding and freaking out. I believe they are stressed out here for whatever reason, and it could be because we’ve had a predator lurking around for a few weeks.
The A&M quail have slightly earned their keep, but I’m still not convinced. As I’ve stated so many times before, we don’t need a meat source physically on our homestead. Because we are avid hunters and know how to work the land, we don’t need fields full of cattle or chickens or meat animals. We know how to take care of ourselves a different way. Which is why I am still hesitant to take on a project that really isn’t required of us to take on.
I’ll update through out the journey. It has been an interesting journey—this quail adventure—and one that I am happy I get to share with all of you. There are ALWAYS two sides to every story, and I have always promised to be truthful and honest and raw in everything we do and try to do here. I hope this post can be helpful to someone.
Let me reiterate, quail haven’t been a complete and total failure for us, but honestly, they haven’t been a success either. That’s just what’s working and not working FOR US. Other homesteads are different, I am sure. This is why I always stress that you try something yourself before making a final opinion about it, and especially before telling others that it’s the best thing since sliced bread.
Happy Homesteading!

By: Amy K. Fewell · In: homesteading, quail · Tagged: fail, quail, raising quail, success

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  1. Dianne Moffitt says

    April 11, 2018 at 2:47 am

    Very interesting read Amy I will be looking for more information so will be back.
    Thanks Dianne

  2. Tawnya says

    March 26, 2019 at 3:58 pm

    Thank-you for sharing! I had thought about keeping them indoors however have changed my mind and decided to find a place in the barn for them based on your information about the smell.

  3. Songe says

    June 11, 2020 at 6:34 am

    It’s so nice to see an honest review for a change! This has been really helpful, thank you.

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Here comes that cheap beef the government is “impo Here comes that cheap beef the government is “importing” this year 😆

Yall don’t remember this but about 13 years or so ago Aldi got sued because their hamburger meat was supplemented with horse meat. History always repeats itself. 

Grow your own. And if you can’t, buy local. 

🥩 TAG YOUR FAVORITE LOCAL BEEF FARMER BELOW!

PS-I totally believe in managing the earth, but this all sounds fishy. Kind of like when they released wolf hybrids (coy-wolves) on the east coast to manage the deer population. But no one wants to talk about that either (we’ve seen them many many times here).
The truly traditional practitioner and herbalist d The truly traditional practitioner and herbalist did not have a need for asyra machines or muscle testing. These things are based on falsities, not skill and trade. The world of wellness is truly a skill and trade. Energy “healing”, and energy detecting machines either dabble in new ageism, or put the skill on a man made machine that can get things wrong many many times. 

The experienced practitioner and family herbalist will evaluate the indications of the client or patient. What does the tongue look like—is it red, elongated, covered in film, dry? Are the extremities cold or hot? Is the skin pale and blue, or pink and inflamed? What organ affinities are being affected? What is the state of the internal and external tissue? A whole body assessment is required. 

Modern holistic wellness has become more like allopathic medicine than it should. The practitioner should be able to access the subject, and make corresponding recommendations based on that evaluation.

Everything else is a cop-out. 

For years I treated herbalism the way one would treat modern medicine. Oh you have a headache? Try this. Fever? You need this herb. But as I’ve grown in skill and knowledge, I’ve realized that while in God’s mercy, much of that has worked, I have seen it work better when I have crafted the skill of the traditional practitioner.

Don’t get me wrong—modern medicine has its place. That’s not what I’m saying. But there is more. Much more. 

I aim to teach you this, friends. What should herbalism and natural wellness truly look like? We must redeem the original design for health. Health is not treating symptoms. True healthcare says things like “the body indicates it is cold and stagnant—how do we move the body towards dispersing heat and releasing stagnation?” 

The germ is not the issue—it is thriving in a particular environment.
The disease is not the enemy—it is the indication.

This is the way.
I don’t know why it surprises me but every time I I don’t know why it surprises me but every time I see or hear something like this, it reminds me how EXTREMELY ignorant Americans are about finances and the food system. 

The farmer gives his or her entire LIFE to put food on YOUR table, just so he can make MAYBE $2/lb while the store charges $10/lb. Through rain or snow. Heat or cold. Sun up to sun down. And you think beef prices need to come DOWN?

How about this instead:
Fight for lower state and federal taxes.
Fight for diminishing the hundreds of things we pay the GOVERNMENT.
Stop buying mindless things. Know where your food comes from.

You pay taxes on your home, your food, your clothing, the Starbucks coffee, anything you buy from anywhere. You pay taxes on your income and beyond. 

Hello? Tap tap—is this thing on? 

Have we not considered how it is CHEAPER to IMPORT beef and pay less for it when it travels thousands of miles from out of country to your grocery store? 

Ludicrous. We will become a nation that is dependent on other nations (hello China, the largest pork producer in America), the big 4 oligarch packers, and whatever the government wants to feed us.

Dear America, your mindset needs to shift and change. Otherwise we are doomed. You’ll be living the hunger games before 2030.
This does absolutely nothing to fix the declining This does absolutely nothing to fix the declining American beef herd.

Just so we’re all on the same page.

Flooding the market with cheaper imported beef doesn’t rebuild American herds. It doesn’t shorten the supply chain. It doesn’t help cattle producers recover from years of drought, high feed costs, high input costs, land pressure, and shrinking margins.

What it does do is train American consumers to expect beef at a price that may not reflect what it actually costs an American rancher to raise it.

You cannot say you want to rebuild the American beef herd while simultaneously undercutting the market American cattle producers depend on.

Cheap beef today does not necessarily equal food security tomorrow.

If we actually want a strong domestic beef supply, we need more cattle raised here. More processing capacity here. More resilient regional food systems. And ranchers who can actually make enough money to keep raising cattle.

Because once the American rancher is gone, bringing in cheaper beef from somewhere else isn’t a solution.

It’s dependency.

And that is the exact opposite of food security.
I have found myself increasingly unfollowing so ma I have found myself increasingly unfollowing so many voices and ministries online recently. Not because I disagree with them. Not because I think they are false. Although there has been some of that, too. 

No, I’ve not been unfollowing because of any of that. I’ve been unfollowing because when I see the post, it influences my thoughts. It could be a true post, or it could be partial truth, but here’s the thing…

1. I don’t need to constantly have a “yes-man” influencing what I’m thinking or saying. We all know this is how the algorithm works, even in ministry. 

2. I don’t constantly need a super generic “prophetic word” that I can apply to my life and be side tracked by said “prophetic word”. Totally over those, and the lack of accountability in that, by the way. 

3. I don’t need to constantly see the same false or over exaggerated reports that are created to incite emotion or action without intimately knowing the situation.

4. I don’t need to see people who have an opinion on everything yet they rarely lift a finger to actually do what they believe in the advancement of the church. It just makes me angry. 

5. I don’t need to know the next big thing in life, the major trends, the territory wars, or the divisiveness. 

One of the greatest quotes someone said to me in my teen years was this—be informed but not consumed. 

It’s ok to know. But when it becomes influential, it’s time to reevaluate. 

I want to hear what God is saying to ME—not the popular people that sit in an echo chamber with each other and fuel off one other online. 

I want to read trusted voices, not just people I followed because they said one good thing that I agreed with. 

I want my feed to be full of people that know how to do confrontation, exhortation, prophecy, and theology well. 

I want to follow accounts that aren’t full of fake homes, fake families, and fake kindness. 

I want the imperfect people who know they didn’t deserve mercy, but received it, and that breaks and restores them daily.

And you know what I’ve noticed? 
I hear God better.
I read the word more.
I cry almost every time I read scripture.
And I see myself more clearly, because I see Him more clearly.

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